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		<title>By: iamnotstarjones</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2895</link>
		<dc:creator>iamnotstarjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Biden had a &#039;Crash&#039; (I&#039;d prefer Birth of a Nation)
moment.

But here&#039;s the part that makes me 
wonder....
why did he have this moment in front of a reporter from the snarky NY Observer?

Is he that lacking in media savvy that he couldn&#039;t consider 
a response that wouldn&#039;t raise calls of racism?

and yes it is offensiveto refer to any minority as articulate. it&#039;s as if the speaker is shocked that someone who isn&#039;t white has a brain, can form complete sentences and run for President.

and yes it is okay to be tired of the 
constant contempt that fellow Americans continue to show for  their darker hued Americans.

I too sing America
but I&#039;m getting mighty pissed at the casual relaxed racism that is being practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Biden had a &#8216;Crash&#8217; (I&#8217;d prefer Birth of a Nation)<br />
moment.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the part that makes me<br />
wonder&#8230;.<br />
why did he have this moment in front of a reporter from the snarky NY Observer?</p>
<p>Is he that lacking in media savvy that he couldn&#8217;t consider<br />
a response that wouldn&#8217;t raise calls of racism?</p>
<p>and yes it is offensiveto refer to any minority as articulate. it&#8217;s as if the speaker is shocked that someone who isn&#8217;t white has a brain, can form complete sentences and run for President.</p>
<p>and yes it is okay to be tired of the<br />
constant contempt that fellow Americans continue to show for  their darker hued Americans.</p>
<p>I too sing America<br />
but I&#8217;m getting mighty pissed at the casual relaxed racism that is being practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: Momb</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2887</link>
		<dc:creator>Momb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden was smart enough to go on The Daily Show last night and get reamed by John D and act goofy and contrite...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden was smart enough to go on The Daily Show last night and get reamed by John D and act goofy and contrite&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: techne</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>techne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up KCinDC, I am a day behind the news and I see this has since been pointed out.  I don&#039;t think it changes my point, though.  IMO the main issue is using that particular set of adjectives to describe a black man. It may not be equivalent to calling someone a nigger, but it&#039;s a backhanded compliment with a distinguished history of racist undertones.  

I&#039;m not sure how to post on Wonkette without a gawker login, but I was going to point out that I listed the same people that Obama did in his response, who are the African Americans who&#039;ve run for president to date.

And if &quot;Hymietown&quot; demonstrates anything it&#039;s that holding poisonous stereotypes and putting one&#039;s foot in one&#039;s mouth are not unique to white people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up KCinDC, I am a day behind the news and I see this has since been pointed out.  I don&#8217;t think it changes my point, though.  IMO the main issue is using that particular set of adjectives to describe a black man. It may not be equivalent to calling someone a nigger, but it&#8217;s a backhanded compliment with a distinguished history of racist undertones.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how to post on Wonkette without a gawker login, but I was going to point out that I listed the same people that Obama did in his response, who are the African Americans who&#8217;ve run for president to date.</p>
<p>And if &#8220;Hymietown&#8221; demonstrates anything it&#8217;s that holding poisonous stereotypes and putting one&#8217;s foot in one&#8217;s mouth are not unique to white people.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone remember Jackson&#039;s &quot;Hymietown&quot; bomb in &#039;88?  Yeah, that&#039;s real articulate.  

As Oprah would say, Biden had a &quot;Crash&quot; moment.  Lets get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;Hymietown&#8221; bomb in &#8216;88?  Yeah, that&#8217;s real articulate.  </p>
<p>As Oprah would say, Biden had a &#8220;Crash&#8221; moment.  Lets get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: peakaction</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>peakaction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that crap like this even happens. Are these idiots THAT out of touch with common-sense reality?!

In many ways I feel like Obama is the new Colin Powell – an über-popular black man who scares the shit out of the old fat men who control the Washington Club.

I remember people saying some similar things about Colin Powell when he suddenly got so popular after Desert Storm, and all the white politicians were afraid he was going to run for president.

&quot;He speaks so well!&quot;

&quot;He&#039;s a goddamned four-star general! Of course he speaks well!&quot;

&quot;Well, I didn&#039;t mean anything racist by it, but... He&#039;s just so articulate and intelligent. I would vote for him!&quot;

Chris Rock had a great bit about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that crap like this even happens. Are these idiots THAT out of touch with common-sense reality?!</p>
<p>In many ways I feel like Obama is the new Colin Powell – an über-popular black man who scares the shit out of the old fat men who control the Washington Club.</p>
<p>I remember people saying some similar things about Colin Powell when he suddenly got so popular after Desert Storm, and all the white politicians were afraid he was going to run for president.</p>
<p>&#8220;He speaks so well!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s a goddamned four-star general! Of course he speaks well!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I didn&#8217;t mean anything racist by it, but&#8230; He&#8217;s just so articulate and intelligent. I would vote for him!&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris Rock had a great bit about it.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2883</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comment was offensive and stupid, but some of the reactions are misrepresenting it, sometimes because &lt;a href=&quot;http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004131.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the media are misquoting Biden&lt;/a&gt;.

Even if you use the misquoted version, Biden said nothing about Sharpton not being clean, or Chrisholm not being articulate, unless you believe that they were mainstream candidates, and I&#039;m assuming &quot;mainstream&quot; here means &quot;has a chance of winning the nomination&quot;. Al Sharpton is not mainstream, any more than Dennis Kucinich is, so Sharpton&#039;s hygiene is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comment was offensive and stupid, but some of the reactions are misrepresenting it, sometimes because <a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004131.html" rel="nofollow">the media are misquoting Biden</a>.</p>
<p>Even if you use the misquoted version, Biden said nothing about Sharpton not being clean, or Chrisholm not being articulate, unless you believe that they were mainstream candidates, and I&#8217;m assuming &#8220;mainstream&#8221; here means &#8220;has a chance of winning the nomination&#8221;. Al Sharpton is not mainstream, any more than Dennis Kucinich is, so Sharpton&#8217;s hygiene is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: techne</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>techne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard she was ill is why I posted that.  It didn&#039;t sound good and I figured it would be soon. 

OK, I&#039;ll give them the nonracism of choosing Juan Williams for this story. (I liked him anyway, right up until the Iraq war when he said something dumb that I&#039;ve forgotten but that pissed me off.)

I&#039;ve heard it said that by &quot;clean&quot; Biden meant his background/history.  whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard she was ill is why I posted that.  It didn&#8217;t sound good and I figured it would be soon. </p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;ll give them the nonracism of choosing Juan Williams for this story. (I liked him anyway, right up until the Iraq war when he said something dumb that I&#8217;ve forgotten but that pissed me off.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard it said that by &#8220;clean&#8221; Biden meant his background/history.  whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Birdcage</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Birdcage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Williams is on the prez beat lately. The one that got me was &quot;clean.&quot; &lt;i&gt;Clean?&lt;/i&gt; I mean, you have to be working hard to say nice things when you get to clean. 

Molly Ivins passed away yesterday, and I thought of your blog post the other day. She was awfully funny and articulate. For a woman. And so &lt;i&gt;clean&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Williams is on the prez beat lately. The one that got me was &#8220;clean.&#8221; <i>Clean?</i> I mean, you have to be working hard to say nice things when you get to clean. </p>
<p>Molly Ivins passed away yesterday, and I thought of your blog post the other day. She was awfully funny and articulate. For a woman. And so <i>clean</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: jamy</title>
		<link>http://latestobsession.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/jaw-drop/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>jamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right there with you--it&#039;s a shocking story. Sharpton was quoted as saying, &quot;I take a shower every day.&quot; Hey, at least he has a sense of humor!

And I don&#039;t think the call to Williams was racist--I think he&#039;s covering presidential politics these days. For example, he did the big NPR interview with Bush the other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right there with you&#8211;it&#8217;s a shocking story. Sharpton was quoted as saying, &#8220;I take a shower every day.&#8221; Hey, at least he has a sense of humor!</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think the call to Williams was racist&#8211;I think he&#8217;s covering presidential politics these days. For example, he did the big NPR interview with Bush the other day.</p>
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